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6.9 (Euro?) Engine for Sale
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Greazzer
10/30/2017 1:28 PM
I bought this engine anticipating buying a 450SEL 6.9 (car), and the few leads I had on cars fell flat. Instead of branching out into another project, I am putting the engine up for sale. I was told it was a Euro spec engine, although I do not know how to determine that. I do not doubt the previous seller. He's been a long time forum member / respected member on this forum.

I am not looking to make any profit. Just re-coup what I have invested thus far. It is still on a pallet, been covered. PM if interested.
Greazzer
10/30/2017 1:46 PM
Here are some pictures. Nothing has changed other than the engine being palletized and there's an air cleaner on it.







Greazzer
10/30/2017 2:20 PM
oops, forgot.

Paid $520.00 for the engine
Shipping $649.20

Total: $1,169.20

Selling price is $1,169.20 plus whatever shipping is (or local pick-up).
daantjie
10/31/2017 4:52 PM
Don't think this is a Euro spec motor as I can see the EGR feed pipe in the top pic. Euro spec motors had no smog crap fitted.

Daniel
1977 450 SEL 6.9
Vancouver, BC
S class
10/31/2017 5:02 PM
I don't see EGR plumbing? Further, I don't see sn aux transmission pump that a us engine would have?


116.036 - trusty rusty
116.036 - Rooikat
116.024 - the merc
116.028 - Penelope
116.032 - Esmeralda
126.037 - Scheckter
126.037
107.046

daantjie
10/31/2017 5:33 PM
quote:
Originally posted by S class

I don't see EGR plumbing? Further, I don't see sn aux transmission pump that a us engine would have?


116.036 - trusty rusty
116.036 - Rooikat
116.024 - the merc
116.028 - Penelope
116.032 - Esmeralda
126.037 - Scheckter
126.037
107.046




Bottom right of top pic looks to me like the connection for the pipe that runs to the EGR.
Idler pulley is visible in bottom pic which could have been installed after the pump was yanked.
Of course I stand to be corrected but my money is on this being US spec motor.

Daniel
1977 450 SEL 6.9
Vancouver, BC
rumb
10/31/2017 7:02 PM
Isnt the distributor number different btwn ROW and euro?

I have a spare euro engine that was retrofitted with air pump stuff. If you had the exhaust manifolds you could have told that way.



rumb
68 250S, 77 450SEL 6.9, 91 300SE, 98 SL500, 14 CLS550
daantjie
10/31/2017 7:30 PM
Looking at it again I see oil cooler hose on bottom pic so indeed this looks like Euro with smog junk retrofitted.

Daniel
1977 450 SEL 6.9
Vancouver, BC
Greazzer
10/31/2017 11:33 PM
I went back and looked at my messages from C.M., the seller, and he indicated his is what occured. That is, smog items were retrofitted to this engine. And looking back at the messages, I really have no basis to doubt him in that this is a Euro engine. I wish it was just stamped "Euro Spec" engine ...
Aaron H
11/7/2017 9:19 PM
Didn't the various engines have "Euro" or "USA" stamped in orange on the back of one of the cylinder heads? Obviously, if the heads have ever been removed and cleaned this paint will have come off.
MattR
11/26/2017 4:01 AM
I might be interested in this, come Spring time? I just bought a house with a 1k sq ft garage, and once my old house is sold (spending the winter fixing it up), I'm wanting to set the garage up with the ability to run motors on stands so I can test/tune/improve, and then swap it with the 6.9 currently in my SE.

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1976 450SE 6.9
aka Frankenbenz
Greazzer
11/26/2017 12:54 PM
I did have one person come in from Florence, SC who wanted to pay me $600 cash, pick up the motor then, and promised to pay me the remainder next Friday. He showed up with a big truck with boom and was rather insistent as he drove around 75 miles to me. Had to decline. I'm OK with payments but the motor stays until all payments are made in full.
daantjie
11/26/2017 1:33 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Greazzer

I did have one person come in from Florence, SC who wanted to pay me $600 cash, pick up the motor then, and promised to pay me the remainder next Friday. He showed up with a big truck with boom and was rather insistent as he drove around 75 miles to me. Had to decline. I'm OK with payments but the motor stays until all payments are made in full.


Haha some folks think other people are really stupid[:D] you would never have heard back from that yokel.

Daniel
1977 450 SEL 6.9
Vancouver, BC
Greazzer
12/25/2017 12:49 PM

Haha some folks think other people are really stupid[:D] you would never have heard back from that yokel.

And you're are correct ...

I called his # a few days ago to let him know that I posted the engine in the local CL. His # is disconnected. I am betting he's one of many folks who gets a TracFone and tosses it every few months. Pretty tough to track someone that way ... I did sneak a snappie of his license plate however ... lol

https://columbia.craigslist.org/pts/d/rare-mercedes-69-engine-euro/6437132265.html
Greazzer
3/12/2018 1:08 PM
Wife is losing patience with this one ... lol

Biting the bullet a little

$1,000 plus shipping. Dropping the price a little
arcijack
3/13/2018 1:11 AM
engines are hard to sell, have 2 on hand and tried to sell, no dice almost have to give away, i decided to sit on mines, pass to the kids , maybe in 25 years might sell
daantjie
3/13/2018 1:23 AM
I've heard of folks using these in boats. Not sure though but this might be worth exploring?

Daniel
1977 450 SEL 6.9
Vancouver, BC
MattR
3/13/2018 2:27 PM
I'm still interested, though I was hoping to hold off until after my house sells (should be on the market in April, and sold by May), since I was contemplating flying out to see the motor in person, and make sure it turns over... and figure out how to get it prepped for shipping across the country.

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1976 450SE 6.9
aka Frankenbenz
Greazzer
3/13/2018 2:32 PM
You are welcome to come out and see it. It's on a pallet right now but the pallets are starting to suffer from the weather. I could take a video tape of turning the engine over by hand if that would be helpful? I finally made the switch from my old flip phone to a "smart phone" / iphone. I am sure my son or daughter could help with the videotaping. Let me know to save a few bucks on airfare. I can re-palletized it with straps and UShip is the way to go IMO.
arcijack
3/13/2018 10:09 PM
engine shipping trucking, shipped 2 engine for me for 500.00 dollars, if you would like their no let me know
Greazzer
3/26/2018 10:13 AM
I took the plunge of E B A Y ...https://www.ebay.com/itm/302683944074?ul_noapp=true

Not sure what's up with the CL crowd, but had a winner this past weekend. Wanted to trade me a Remington 1100 shot gun and a box of shells to last the entire Zombie Apocalyspe ... Advised not interested in trades but was told this was a great deal for me ... so ... its going on Ebay for now ... and thinking about pulling the CL add.
daantjie
3/26/2018 11:52 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Greazzer

I took the plunge of E B A Y ...https://www.ebay.com/itm/302683944074?ul_noapp=true

Not sure what's up with the CL crowd, but had a winner this past weekend. Wanted to trade me a Remington 1100 shot gun and a box of shells to last the entire Zombie Apocalyspe ... Advised not interested in trades but was told this was a great deal for me ... so ... its going on Ebay for now ... and thinking about pulling the CL add.


Only in 'merica[:D]...

Daniel
1977 450 SEL 6.9
Vancouver, BC
MattR
3/26/2018 8:05 PM
You might want to look into how you have your motor listed, Greazzer? I had a heck of a time trying to locate it via eBay search.

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1976 450SE 6.9
aka Frankenbenz
Greazzer
3/27/2018 7:22 AM
Last evening I typed, "Mercedes 6.9 engine" and it popped right up on Ebay, #2 listing. So, I am guessing it's listed OK.
MattR
3/28/2018 8:19 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Greazzer

Last evening I typed, "Mercedes 6.9 engine" and it popped right up on Ebay, #2 listing. So, I am guessing it's listed OK.

Yeah, you're right. It's popping right up now, and I couldn't find it before. Maybe eBay just hadn't indexed it or something, since I was looking just a few hours after you posted it.

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1976 450SE 6.9
aka Frankenbenz
Greazzer
7/2/2018 10:39 AM
I've dropped the price on Ebay because of a promotional offer from Ebay capping their fees. This is probably the lowest I will go on this engine just in case anyone is interested. I will say placing this engine on CL was a boo-boo ...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/302790426453?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649
cth350
7/4/2018 10:39 AM
and "M100, not 6.3" to your title to improve hits". -CTH
daantjie
7/4/2018 10:48 AM
I've said this before and have been slammed for it, but I still believe that a 6.9 engine has almost no value by itself. Unless 6.9 values rise, and I hope they will of course, very, very few folks will spring for a motor.
If it were me, I would clean it up nice, and mount it on an engine stand in my man cave[:D] It really is a glorious thing to behold by itself and will always be a conversation starter. Even better if you can have it functional and fire it up every now and then sans mufflers, when the neighbours throw a rowdy party[:D][:D][:D][:D]

Daniel
1977 450 SEL 6.9
Vancouver, BC
Greazzer
7/4/2018 10:54 AM
My thoughts are headed that way. The real "issue" is my HOA. I've been lucky so far since I parked a car up next to it, but I am waiting for the little red card in the mail. Having said that, I am thinking one AM, zero-dark pretty early, I will clean-up a spot in my somewhat disorganized garage and do exactly that. Do all the surface gaskets, new fuel injectors, clean it up and detail the heck out of it, a few hours a night when it cools down, and try to fire it up.
Greazzer
7/4/2018 10:59 AM
quote:
Originally posted by daantjie

I've said this before and have been slammed for it, but I still believe that a 6.9 engine has almost no value by itself. Unless 6.9 values rise, and I hope they will of course, very, very few folks will spring for a motor.
If it were me, I would clean it up nice, and mount it on an engine stand in my man cave[:D] It really is a glorious thing to behold by itself and will always be a conversation starter. Even better if you can have it functional and fire it up every now and then sans mufflers, when the neighbours throw a rowdy party[:D][:D][:D][:D]

Daniel
1977 450 SEL 6.9
Vancouver, BC


I cannot disagree. If this was a decent OM617 diesel engine for example, I could get $1000 for it and those engines are a dime a dozen. You would think because of scarcity, it would fetch a higher price. Who knows, installing it in a W123 Coupe ? LOL
daantjie
7/4/2018 11:01 AM
Yup I think that will be pretty cool. Don't feel too discouraged, this guy has been trying to sell a new M120 motor for ages up here in Alberta:

https://vancouver.craigslist.ca/van/pts/d/mercedes-benz-120-v12-engine/6622853867.html

I think his price is a bit nuts, but that too will make a fantastic engine on a stand in a man cave or garage. Side by side it will be super cool to have these two behemoth Benz motors.



Daniel
1977 450 SEL 6.9
Vancouver, BC
Greazzer
7/4/2018 11:07 AM
Right now the heat and humidity is my biggest hurdle. Each day is pushing 100F and with the humidity, the heat index is rough. Columbia, S.C. is a screen door to hell in the summers. After around two hours in the early AM, I am literally soaked.
Greazzer
7/10/2018 4:26 PM
Well, it sold on eBay ! Waiting to get paid. Buyer is from Germany. Hope it's not a mistake or some sort of scamer. Fingers crossed.
MattR
7/10/2018 5:55 PM
I'm sad to hear it sold (since I was still harboring dreams of buying it some day), but glad you found a buyer, and hope it isn't a scammer. Keep us up to date on how it goes. :)

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1976 450SE 6.9
aka Frankenbenz
Greazzer
7/30/2018 3:17 PM
Still waiting to get paid from the "buyer." Wonder if this was a scammer or just a reasonable delay from an overseas buyer .... ?
daantjie
7/30/2018 3:31 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Greazzer

Still waiting to get paid from the "buyer." Wonder if this was a scammer or just a reasonable delay from an overseas buyer .... ?


Unfortunately I suspect the former[xx(]

Daniel
1977 450 SEL 6.9
Vancouver, BC
MattR
7/30/2018 7:14 PM
Hopefully you haven't shipped the motor yet?

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1976 450SE 6.9
aka Frankenbenz
Greazzer
7/30/2018 7:21 PM
Heck no. Craigslist was a mess with a handful of kooks responding. eBay hasn’t been so hot thus far. Lol
rumb
7/31/2018 9:35 AM
BTW, what does it cost to ship an engine to Europe these days?

rumb
68 250S, 77 450SEL 6.9, 91 300SE, 98 SL500, 14 CLS550
arcijack
8/1/2018 12:28 AM
its tough selling these engines, i have one that i have attempted to sell on ebay but no dice, i decided to keep for the grand kids, maybe in 25 years it will be worth something
Kanga
8/1/2018 1:08 AM
If this engine was in Oz,I would snap it up as prices are higher here.For me to purchase from the states the price is much too high after the transporters are paid and the shipping company with there high prices. Not to mention quarantine and inspection when it arrives in Oz.Cannot understand why USA folk do not purchase it for spare parts etc.
daantjie
8/1/2018 1:42 AM
Simply put it's a numbers game. You can pick up a whole parts car 6.9 for what some folks try and flog a motor here for. Unless you have a new crate motor and planning on doing a frame off resto there is little demand. These motors are hella tough so usually it's the last thing on the list if you plan on resurrecting an old 6.9.

Daniel
1977 450 SEL 6.9
Vancouver, BC
Greazzer
8/2/2018 12:22 PM
Unless the pricing went banana-rama, a car with all the fees was under $1500 so my guess and just a guess is in the ballpark of 1/4th of that. I’m willing to drive it to Charleston which is around two hours from me if I’m paid $100 bucks which is pretty cheap for a 250 mile round trip hauling 700 pounds with delivery to the shipping yards. I opened an eBay “no pay” case which I’m guessing will be fruitless and a joke. I already offered the buyer I would store the engine until he got his ducks in a row but just please pay. Crickets after that message and that’s pushing two weeks now. . I’m thinking back to square one shortly.
Greazzer
8/6/2018 5:27 PM
Well ... I am thinking ebay is no better than CL in some regards. Total scammer .... never paid. Wanted my PP info then disappeared. I gave him an email address but that's it. So, I lost my promotional sales deal on ebay, but it's relisted now. Someone did ping me about the heads. I am thinking about that BUT gonna make sure I get paid in advance before tearing the engine apart although that is my absolute last resort. I would probably keep it before parting the engine out. Just little time for projects. Not sure what makes the scammers tick ...
MattR
8/7/2018 6:31 PM
Do you want to post the link to the engine? I want to watch the auction.

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1976 450SE 6.9
aka Frankenbenz
Greazzer
8/7/2018 7:13 PM
Here it is https://m.ebay.com/itm/Engine-Mercedes-Benz-6-9-Euro-Spec-Engine-from-450SEL/302834360471?_mwBanner=1&ul_ref=https%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F0%2Fe12000.m43.l6300%2F7%3Feuid%3D9eeb770c24a3408c8249ddaf04616628%26bu%3D42993123906%26loc%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.ebay.com%252Fulk%252Fitm%252F302834360471%26sojTags%3Dbu%3Dbu%26srcrot%3De12000.m43.l6300%26rvr_id%3D0%26rvr_ts%3D16aa58e11650aadafee3d9c3fffaff04&ul_noapp=true
paul-NL
8/8/2018 5:46 AM
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=engine+benz+6.9&_fosrp=1&_osacat=6000&_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=302834360471&_sacat=6000

cth350
8/18/2018 8:48 AM
Try this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/302844229510

-CTH
Greazzer
12/29/2018 8:34 AM
I have listed this a few times on eBay. I believe the engine came from this car: VIN WDB 116 036 12 003314 Does anyone have a way to check on this VIN? I struck out looking for over an hour.

Also, the heads are stamped as follows:

On the passenger side: 100 016 2901

On the driver side: R 100 016 28 01

I sold a few months ago an OM616 engine with auto tranny. Those are a "dime a dozen" from a W123 240D. Numerous folks lined up with their $1,000 in hand and it was an easy sell. It's interesting from my limited experience that this M100 engine from the 6.9 cannot easily sell for a little bit over that yet the differences between the OM616 engine vs. this beast are massive.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-450SEL-W116-6-9-Euro-Spec-Engine/303009026962?hash=item468cbed392:g:tE0AAOSwAuJb6YIT:rk:1:pf:0
daantjie
12/29/2018 11:20 AM
I would suggest to clean it up nice and mount it on a stand in your man cave. Then at least you'll have a conversation piece if the missus does not whine too much about it[:D]

Daniel
1977 450 SEL 6.9
Vancouver, BC
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