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paul-NL
8/5/2009 5:02 PM

Here is what we have so far:


000002:




000027:





000031:




000033:



000038:







000041:






 000056 :









000061:




000072:




000077:








000089:





000104:




000125 :



000131:




000133RHD:




000208:




000384 ex Shah of Persia:





000432





000497:



000537 Germany Stuttgart with DIESEL-ENGINE ....





000541:




000542:





000543:




000565:




000574:





000575:




000586:





000613:



xxxxxx:

asked to not publish pictures, so no picture available


000744:



000760 RHD:




000787 with GLASSROOF :





000789:




000890:





000906





000930:




000965:




000985:




000994:



001000



001023:




001025:




001061:





001194 :




EX 001202 : in 2006 rebuild to "Speedstar" without divider and without roof [:)]



..... looks now :




001302 :




001308:





001365: ex King Idris Libya





001403: 1969 USA Barret Jackson auction




001405:




001428:




001546:

Owner asked to not publish pictures, so no picture available



001560 RHD :





001615:




001643RHD:

no picture available



001661RHD:




 001800:




001893:




001948 RHD:




002076 Carat interior :




002167RHD:






002194RHD:




002216:




002224


002230:




002256:




002261:



002312: japan (now identified)






002335:





002336 ex divider :





002344: ex Tito car




002384RHD:




002410:




002417 RHD:




002434:



002436 : (PANZER + CARAT - interior)





002437 RHD:




002438 RHD ex divider:




002461:



002470 panzered



002474 panzered



002478:




002484:




002605:




002613: from Qatar





002621 RHD:






Art Love
8/5/2009 5:50 PM
Paul,

John Freeman has that ex Japan ex Perth RHD car that was on this website a few years ago. I don't know the chassis number and I don't recognize it in your pictures. Is it there or do you want me to check with John?
Art
paul-NL
8/5/2009 7:41 PM

Art,


please investigate, then I haven't a SWB connected to his name.


here some SWB-dividercars which are not identified yet ...


older as 000642: Madrid




1965 ex Guatamala car now identified as 000432




1967 Japan




1973 Hong Kong




other Hong Kong car (or possible the same as above)




unknown car possible in Belgium now identified as 2216 Japan




still unknown (without wheelfenderchrome):


Grand Canaria : car is now identified and added




japan




littlefield collection now identified as 000432




Meilenwerk Berlin, must be 000072




Taiwan





new added unknown :




Any help is welcome [:)]


As I count well that are 46 Vinnumbers and 13 cars plus 3 unknown on the next page plus 3 cars on page 3 unknown cars, so over 50 cars until now......


The earlier showed german car with License B-WW600H is deleted, because it is car 000072, today (for sale) with englisch licenseplate.

Ron B
8/5/2009 8:47 PM
John Freeman was telling me he bought his SWB as a parts car but i's in such good condition it has remained untouched . He is too tall to drive it...

quote:
12-14-2004, 11:49 PM #8
Tom Hanson
MBCA Member

What the heck, try to stuff a MB 6.9 liter V8 in it. What a machine that would be..
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cakalues
8/6/2009 12:39 AM
Paul

I will have a VIN and pictures of a SWB divider car soon.
I am hoping tomorrow, but we shall see what happens. Might take a few more days.


Luis
109.018-12-000010
109.018-12-000019
109.018-12-000077
109.018-12-000377
109.018-12-001377

espejor
8/6/2009 6:26 AM
Sorry if these pics are repeated:

-First President of Kenya (I found this pic on Ebay):

[img] uploaded/espejor/20098661345_05dc_1.JPG [/img]

-Used during the liberation of the hostages in Uganda: now identified as 000432 that liberationstory is not correct ..

[img] uploaded/espejor/2009866152_IMGP7504.jpg [/img]

-Ex-Iranian Embassy in Paris:

[img] uploaded/espejor/20098661819_mercedes_600_navy-blue_rear_open_doorlssss.JPG [/img]

-Owned by Beznev and sold recently:

[img] uploaded/espejor/20098661949_005a.JPG [/img]

-I think that this car was found by me in Ebay Japan:

[img] uploaded/espejor/20098662031_fe04_3.jpg [/img]

[img] uploaded/espejor/20098662146_f8e6_3dd.JPG [/img]

-¿?

[img] uploaded/espejor/2009866343_HPIM7193%20(Medium)a.JPG [/img]

-This appeared in this forum:

[img] uploaded/espejor/20098662541_Pic022d.JPG [/img]

If you want more photos of any cars that I have posted, please tell me. I have a lot of photos!

Do you have more photos of 000384?

Regards!
paul-NL
8/6/2009 9:00 AM
All the dividercars, you mentioned, were already in the overview.





I have not more pictures of the Shah's SWB then those two.

espejor
8/6/2009 12:51 PM
Do you know if the Shah's SWB was an USA version or an European version converted to USA version like the SWB belonged to the Iranian Embassy in Paris?

Regards!
paul-NL
8/6/2009 1:29 PM
The blue Iranian Embassady car is claerly NO US-car but changed some outer look-signs to US-specs.
The Iran Shah's car seems/looks to be also a US-specs-converted car, but I have no Info yet.
In the auction in 2004 it was claimed to be armoured with 3/52 steel, whatever that should be ??
The car has red leather inside.

espejor
8/6/2009 6:08 PM
I have a doubt...

Do you know the year of the white SWB that belonged to the Shah? Are you sure that it was owned by the Shah? I guess that maybe this car didn't belong to the Shah, because the Shah hadn't house in USA (the Shah and Empress Farah had "Villa Suvretta" in Saint Moritz only).

Maybe this car belonged to Ashraf Pahlavi (the twin sister of the Shah) who worked in New York as ambassador of Iran in the UN or to Ardeshir Zahedi (the ex-husband of Shahnaz Pahlavi, eldest daughter of the Shah), ambassador of Iran in USA.

Regards!
paul-NL
8/6/2009 7:28 PM
july or aug 65. That is not white but beige 158 ....
Info came only from the auctionhouse in Califotnia.

The headlights on the car don't belong to that date and are from a later car or retrofitted.

karlschreiner
8/6/2009 7:28 PM
Paul,

Where did you get the photo of #1365 as it my car, and I never submitted it.
paul-NL
8/6/2009 7:34 PM
Hi Karl,
I found it on the internet:

Send you the link.
BTW: it is definitly a eurospec-car [:)]
It cost me TWO years of digging [;)]

But I am glad you are reading here. The more enthousiasts the better.
I just read it has only 17 K Km, half as much as mine also unrestaured divider-car 2484 .....

with kindly regards
espejor
8/7/2009 8:11 AM
A "tuning" company modified a 600SWB with divider:

http://img40.imageshack.us/i/cardriver30.jpg/

Regards!
paul-NL
8/7/2009 9:00 AM
Do you have more pages scanned from that folder ??

With regards,
Paul
espejor
8/7/2009 9:47 AM
Sorry, it's the only page that I have.

Regards!
cakalues
8/15/2009 8:27 PM
Hey Paul,

How many SWB Divider cars do you know of have sunroof's in the rear? I heard somewhere that there were only 3, but there has to be more than just 3, at least I would think.

Also, how many SWB divider cars were made total?

Thanks for your help.

Luis
109.018-12-000010
109.018-12-000019
109.018-12-000077
109.018-12-000377
109.018-12-001377

Gerrett
8/15/2009 8:57 PM
Luis:

I believe there were 50 SWB divider cars.

Gerrett Conover,
M-100 Membership Sec'y
-----------------------
1971 600 SWB
1979 450SEL 6.9
1981 250 LWB
1995 Impala SS
1996 S500
[img=left]http://www.600swb.com/Images/600_sm.jpg[/img=left]
paul-NL
8/15/2009 10:40 PM
First,
the code for the front sunroof is 411
the code for the rear sunroof is 412

Now how many SWB divider cars were made.
According the statistic today we have 20 % of produced cars identified from which 31 SWB with divider.
Statisticly should then a production from about 150 be realistic.

How many were made with sunroof in the backcompartment.
From the listed 31 SWB dividercars there were already 6 listed ....
So three would be a bittle to low [}:)]

numbers 2, 613, 930, 1661, 2344 and mine 2484 ... have code 412
(33, 41, 532, 1643, 2167 and 2384 is unknown)

Here you see the hydraulic switches in my rear door.




from l-r: seatadjustment, window, divider and right the sunroof.
But I don't know if cars with a front sunroof have also a switch in the backdoors.
Chris Johnson
8/15/2009 11:25 PM
The cars without a divider window do have switches in the back for the sunroof.

Is there such as thing as a car with the divider that has a sunroof in the front?

Chris Johnson
If you aren't constantly impressed with your car, then it needs fixing.
100.012-12-000790
100.012-12-000867
www.300SE.org
paul-NL
8/16/2009 8:17 AM
Hi Chris,

yepp, the blue 1403 for example has a slidingroof in the front.
Chris Johnson
8/16/2009 11:28 AM
Do you have a data card for this car?

I would consider this to be an anomoly, though, certainly, anything could be ordered.

Chris Johnson
If you aren't constantly impressed with your car, then it needs fixing.
100.012-12-000790
100.012-12-000867
www.300SE.org
paul-NL
8/16/2009 11:34 AM
No Chris,

unfortunatly we have not the datacard but you can see it on its picture on page 1.
Chris Johnson
8/16/2009 11:49 AM
I can see it, but, in my opinion, something this unusual should be confirmed as having been built that way by the factory.

I have run into some odd 300SEs over the years that were claimed to be original, but closer review debunked some of the claims (but actually confirmed one or two).

Chris Johnson
If you aren't constantly impressed with your car, then it needs fixing.
100.012-12-000790
100.012-12-000867
www.300SE.org
paul-NL
8/16/2009 12:00 PM
Hi Chris,

It is possible not all buyers and MB-dealers in that time knew that code 412 was optional for a SWB ....

And if not "meanly known" it wasn't ordered, or the buyer/owner had no benefit for that extra option....

Who knows all [:)] ..

cakalues
8/18/2009 12:52 PM
Paul, is it true that only the later SWB divider cars had the microphone mounted to the steering column in order to communicate with passengers when the divider window was up?



Luis
109.018-12-000010
109.018-12-000019
109.018-12-000077
109.018-12-000377
109.018-12-001377

paul-NL
8/18/2009 1:29 PM
Hi Luis,

Of course we have probably catched only one fifth of the divider cars, but the first / youngest from which we now have is 001365 with intercom-option.

I believe that KW-option was always available, but most less SWB were in my opinion constantly driven by a personel chauffeur.
The first owner of my car had a personal driver/chauffeur.

And then the KW-option had only real sence, when on the backseat were hold "real secret conversations". Else the dividerwindow would be dropped for a short conversation with the driver.
But, who realy knows "all ins and outs" from the first buyers ....

I could imagine, that car 384 also would have an intercom, but have no pictures of the interior (yet[:D])
Hope this "gueshing answer" is satisfying.

Art Love
8/23/2009 4:58 AM
Paul,

I have heard back from John Freeman. He has been unwell. His SWB divider car is 2167 and you have a picture of it looking rather sad down on its knees. So it is on your list. I just didn't recognize it. I asked him for the VIN's of his 4 cars for you and list them below. He said he would send some pictures when he can. You will have pictures of the pullman as I have posted some before. You probably won't have the white one.

100 012 22 000157 black as I recall - original owner from records I have was "R Irish"
100 014 22 000262 blue - ex Phillip Morris director in Australia
100 012 22 000864 white - ex Tommy Hanlon Jr., an entertainer
100 012 22 002167 blue - ex Perth then Japan
Art
paul-NL
8/23/2009 5:19 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Art Love

Paul,

He said he would send some pictures when he can. You probably won't have the white one.



Thank you Art for your help,
100 012 22 000157 Known, but no pictures.
100 012 22 000864 new and no pictures. Will add it now in my database.

I will wait and would be glad to get those pics in the future.


will
8/27/2009 6:58 PM
Hello,

here are pics of 600`s with divider: The second pic shows the car of king Moshoushou of Lesotho (Africa) delivered in 1973, the first and the following after the second pic showing a car, which was delivered 1967 to Saudi Arabia without crome at the fenders, the next car was offered some years ago by Gullwing NY and the last was the car of ambassador of Chile in Germany in 1968.

Greetings
Wilfried































paul-NL
8/27/2009 9:31 PM
Hi Will.

The second picture from the car of king Moshoushou of Lesotho "OA 200" (Africa) is already known. Vin 2194. [:D]

the three other cars are new and needs further investigations.
I think we will that also find (sooner or later) [8D]
The New Yorker car (pict 5+6) must be between 000974 en 000986.
The chilian Ambassador car in Germany (pict 7+8) must be before 001032.
Tha saudi Arabian car must be after 001027.


Thanks for those pictures.

paul-NL
10/3/2009 11:17 PM
After exchanging some emails with Luis, we discovered now, that the frontseats in a dividercar normaly are standard in leather.

If there is a non-leather-code mentioned in a dividercar-datacard, then that non-leather-upholstery-code is in dividercars only the code for the rearseats.

paul-NL
10/12/2009 6:36 PM
Found a (per accident) new divider car RHD in South Africa.
I had already a picture of that car,but did not recognise until now, that it was also divider car.
Vin 1948 and pictures is added in the overview on page 1

paul-NL
10/13/2009 9:50 PM
And two unidentified Dividercars from Switserland / Geneva.









Could be the same car on different locations ..... ???
FrikRoux
10/14/2009 12:05 AM
quote:
Originally posted by paul-NL

Found a (per accident) new divider car RHD in South Africa.
I had already a picture of that car,but did not recognise until now, that it was also divider car.
Vin 1948 and pictures is added in the overview on page 1


Paul if the owner of this car hasn't got a problem with it, please send me his details. It would be nice to make contact with him / her.

100.012-22-01214
109.018-22-004349
paul-NL
10/15/2009 4:05 PM
Here the last discovery:

ex LHD 1202, today better known as the "SPEEDSTAR" in Japan:





and an other dividercar in japan:







Ron B
10/16/2009 6:11 PM
The owner of the Car in Japan is also the same guy who built that shortened 600 with the soft top? If so,he also rebuilds injection pumps.

quote:
12-14-2004, 11:49 PM #8
Tom Hanson
MBCA Member

What the heck, try to stuff a MB 6.9 liter V8 in it. What a machine that would be..
__________________
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Orange County Section
paul-NL
10/16/2009 6:21 PM
The blue car from japan went into the white speedstar, yes that's the guy.

The white (primer??) japanese divider car, I don't know yet, but believe it belongs to somebody else .., because Wanatabee gave us his four Vins.

paul-NL
1/7/2010 6:15 PM
One german SWB, identified and added in the overview on page 1 :







paul-NL
1/9/2010 8:01 PM
Just got an Email from our member Bill Saylor from Canada.

He emailed me several new pictures from divider-cars, which I added in the overview on page 1. In this Email was also a new Vin and pictures from a divider car I did not knew until now.

Ron B
1/12/2010 3:34 AM
I wonder what size those wheels are?


quote:
12-14-2004, 11:49 PM #8
Tom Hanson
MBCA Member

What the heck, try to stuff a MB 6.9 liter V8 in it. What a machine that would be..
__________________
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Orange County Section
paul-NL
2/5/2010 6:33 PM
During my hunting for Vins I stumbled over an advertising:

1964 Mercedes Benz 600
$ 225.000
1964 Mercedes-Benz 600 28865 Miles
Hemmings Motor News - Miami Gardens FL

clicking on the Link and there appears the next text:

MERCEDES-BENZ: 1964 Grand 600, swb, very rare, only 24 made, completely restored, 28,865 miles, partition with refrigerated bar, reclining rear seat, fuel injection 6.3 liter V8, arctic white with maroon interior, offered at $225,000. 305-623-4899, FL. $225,000

Has anybody additional Info for me and a picture ??? because this car is still missing in my database ....
paul-NL
2/7/2010 2:04 PM
Again a HongKong Dividercar:



Ron B
2/8/2010 5:42 PM
I was talking with John Freeman at the Toowoomba Swap meet on Friday and he tells me has sold his SWB divider car to a new owner in Sydney. I understand that it was also a Hong Kong car when new.

quote:
12-14-2004, 11:49 PM #8
Tom Hanson
MBCA Member

What the heck, try to stuff a MB 6.9 liter V8 in it. What a machine that would be..
__________________
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Orange County Section
paul-NL
2/24/2010 4:26 PM
Again one:







Ian Keers
3/1/2010 4:48 AM
Paul, Do you know about this one or am I repeating a previous post?:

http://www.barons-auctions.com/details.php?lotpath=lots/DHJ564B.php

Ian Keers
United Kingdom
paul-NL
3/1/2010 6:51 AM
Hi Ian,

Thank you very much for your help.
This car is for sale since a long time (also been in several auctions and in several countries [Switserland, Germany and GB]). It had in the past some square foglights on the bumper. The mountings are still in place on the bumper.

It is the early car with number 27.
paul-NL
3/5/2010 5:16 AM
Added in the overview no 002312 from Japan (38th identified divider-SWB).
At the moment on Ebay no 280473892259 .

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280473892259&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fmotors.shop.ebay.com%3A80%2F__%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp3841.m39.l1313%26_nkw%3D280473892259%26_sacat%3D%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1

Also added an EX-divider SWB in the overview, now better known as the japanese white "speedstar" ....
paul-NL
3/31/2010 3:17 PM
An other dividercar owner was the Shah of Teheran:











Ron B
3/31/2010 4:51 PM
yet another "shah" car[:)]. The Museum in Teheran has several of his 600's in the collection but i had never seen pictures of that one.

quote:
12-14-2004, 11:49 PM #8
Tom Hanson
MBCA Member

What the heck, try to stuff a MB 6.9 liter V8 in it. What a machine that would be..
__________________
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