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paul-NL
6/30/2009 2:06 PM

we can't wait for the comming "LWB-section"

so we make a start now .....


start with the (unidentified) first build:





237




362 Pope-car




000705 :




and the only SWB:

830 Graf von Berckheim




894 President Ivory Coast Africa




896 Tito Yugoslavia




1096 President Gabon




added 1129 [ex Mobutu's]




added 1204




1217 Ceausescu




001619 Bulgerian




1634 M Glass




1784




1790




1854 Tito




001861 = 6d ex Mobutu




1879 (ex Africa)




1894 President Senegal




2165 factory




2283 ex Africa




2316




added 2320




2541 Ceausescu II




2551 west Africa




2563




2660




RHD 601 Sultan v Brunei




RHD 1743 Sultan v Brunei




RHD 1942 Lindsay Fox ex Bob Jane




RHD 2020 pres South Africa




added RHD 002647




RHD 002657 in Johor




So that were the identified cars, and now the unidentified pictures:




ex Idi Amin




Moa Tse Tung




4d exMobutu could be 001129




6d ex Bongo




Paris (now in south Germany ???)





Gerrett
6/30/2009 6:45 PM
Paul:

Did you note that (finally) the Romanian state landaulet sold at RM Auction recently. It was sold for $300,000 US, which I believe is about half the original asking price.

That car was a full laundaulet (2/3 uncovered).

My LWB is now on US soil, awaiting US Customs approval.

Gerrett Conover,
M-100 Membership Sec'y
-----------------------
1971 600 SWB
1979 450SEL 6.9
1981 250 LWB
1995 Impala SS
1996 S500
[img=left]http://www.600swb.com/Images/flatprofile.jpg[/img=left]
paul-NL
6/30/2009 7:04 PM
Gerrett,

You are talking about 1854.
It was sold on RM-Auction febr 2003 for $ 378800. It had then 23000 Km. It was Tito's "second" Landaulet.
As I am informed well it is now in south Germany. Black with tan leather and came out the Rolf Meyer collection. It is a rare sixdoor presidential / long softtop.

I am glad your new LWB-'taxi' is arrived yet ..... [:o)]
When I come the next time to the States I know who to ring for a taxi [}:)].

But I tought it might be time to present the landaulets I collected, in a "one view"posting, since you have spare time to update the register. 1/3 of the landaulets are now identified, which is not a bad result at all, I believe.

BTW, when can we see this new LWB section ??? [;)]

Greetings to the "taxi-driver" [:p]

will
6/30/2009 7:15 PM
Hi Paul,

Congratulation for this great collection of pictures. Perhaps is Vin 894 with the white softtop the same like "ex-Idi-Amin"? Further I have a pic of another RHD Landaulet, which was delivered to an unknown africain state. I will send it to you.
Greetings Will
paul-NL
6/30/2009 7:29 PM
Hi Wll,

894 was from the president of Ivory Coast in Africa. So Idi Amin's is NOT 894. That are different cars.
We have to search on for that Amin's carVin.

BUT, I remember that once Mr van der Velde in Lokeren posted, he married in a Amin's Landaulet.......
Do I remember that correct ????
Then he is possible able to help us to find more about that Landaulet .....

I hope he will read this [:)] and would be willing to help us.

paul-NL
6/30/2009 7:46 PM
Hmmmmm,
I searched quick my database and found that picture .......

Note the "Wapen" on the thrunklid instead of the STAR.

Mark please help us ....





But this car seems to have a black softtop and red laether.
It could be Amin had also more Landaulets ......
Now we have sorted out 31 different Landaulets from 59 build.


paul-NL
6/30/2009 8:24 PM
And here an other one, probably the first longsofttop-car
(Must be around Vin 250 and in factory-ownership)




During the visit from Queen Elisabeth to Berlin in front of the Brandenburger Tor ....

That is number 32 from 59 build ....

paul-NL
6/30/2009 9:34 PM
As Pompidou 1971 visited Cameroon, there were also two Landaulets.
A Black one and a White one.













That counts on 34 .....

S class
7/1/2009 4:19 AM
Hi Paul,

earlier presidents of South Africa had a LWB laundalet. It is black, and now in the museum of Mercedes South Africa. Do you have VIN and photos? I can try to get some photos for you.


116.036
116.036
116.024
107.044
202.018

Ron B
7/1/2009 4:26 AM
Kim Jong Il's 600


South Korean President Roh Moo-hyun, center left, accompanied by North's No. 2 leader Kim Yong Nam, waves from a open-top car during a motorcade in Pyongyang, North Korea, Tuesday, Oct. 2, 2007. North Korean leader Kim Jong Il greeted Roh in Pyongyang Tuesday to begin only the second summit between the two countries since the peninsula's division after World War II.
Sorry, no Chassis number.[:D]


quote:
12-14-2004, 11:49 PM #8
Tom Hanson
MBCA Member

What the heck, try to stuff a MB 6.9 liter V8 in it. What a machine that would be..
__________________
Tom Hanson
Orange County Section
Gerrett
7/1/2009 5:45 AM
Paul:

Well, it was (unbeknownst to me) a rerun, but that isn't the car to which I'm referring..

Chassis 1217, owned by Nicolae Ceaucescu, was sold in Phoenix in 2006 for $300,000, plus 10% buyer's premium.

http://www.rmauctions.com/CarDetails.cfm?SaleCode=AZ06&CarID=r211

Gerrett Conover,
M-100 Membership Sec'y
-----------------------
1971 600 SWB
1979 450SEL 6.9
1981 250 LWB
1995 Impala SS
1996 S500
[img=left]http://www.600swb.com/Images/flatprofile.jpg[/img=left]
paul-NL
7/1/2009 5:50 AM
quote:
Originally posted by S class

earlier presidents of South Africa had a LWB laundalet. It is black, and now in the museum of Mercedes South Africa. Do you have VIN and photos? I can try to get some photos for you.


That's RHD2020 and any additional picture is welcome.
paul-NL
7/1/2009 6:55 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Ron B

Kim Jong Il's 600


Thanks Ron for those pics.
Until now I could not find any usable.
paul-NL
7/1/2009 6:59 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Gerrett

Paul:

Well, it was (unbeknownst to me) a rerun, but that isn't the car to which I'm referring..


Gerrett, I made a mistake on my answer , may be it is better when I add some info to the known Vinnumbers. So I did ....
Sory for my misunderstanding ...
espejor
7/1/2009 3:48 PM
[img] uploaded/espejor/200971154612_2007 541a.JPG [/img]

[img] uploaded/espejor/20097115472_2007 542a.JPG [/img]

[img] uploaded/espejor/200971154734_7457764.jpg [/img]

Two Landaulet belonged to HIM the Shah of Iran.

Regards!
espejor
7/1/2009 3:50 PM
Do you have more photos of "2283 ex Africa"? It's in a very bad condition!

This topic is amazing!

Regards!
paul-NL
7/1/2009 4:02 PM
Thanks for those pictures from the Shah's Landaulets, which are slightly better as what I had. I forgot to list them.

No, I have no additional pictures of that 2283 car yet. As far as I am informed, this car is in retauration at this moment. I haven't seen the car. The owner prommessed us more pictures as soon as the car is completly restaured and not eralier then that.
I am trying to get in contact with the new owner for about a year, but could not reach him yet. Probably because a wrong emailadress ......

Counting now 37
espejor
7/1/2009 4:05 PM
I have some photos of Landaulet that I don't know the owner:

-This Landaulet was used in the wedding of HRH the Prince Felipe of Belgium with Mrs. Mathilde:

[img] uploaded/espejor/200971155346_1999 Phillippe and Mathildea.JPG [/img]

-Other pic of Tito's Landaulet:

[img] uploaded/espejor/20097115579_504010c.jpg [/img]

-Two of Gabon's Landaulet:

[img] uploaded/espejor/200971155927_Gabón1a.JPG [/img]

[img]uploaded/espejor/2009711604_mercedes_600_pullmann_4492-ba.JPG [/img]

-Do you know these Landaulet?

[img] uploaded/espejor/20097116756_Mercedes-Benz%20600%20Pullman%20Landaulet%20%271978a.JPG [/img]

[img] uploaded/espejor/20097116314_std_1965_mercedes-benz_600_landaulet.jpg [/img]

[img] uploaded/espejor/20097116419_P5040133a.JPG [/img]

-Other of Ivory Coast's Landaulet:

[img] uploaded/espejor/20097116510_fshn07s5ou.jpg [/img]

Regards!
espejor
7/1/2009 4:10 PM
quote:
Originally posted by paul-NL

Thanks for those pictures from the Shah's Landaulets, which are slightly better as what I had. I forgot to list them.

No, I have no additional pictures of that 2283 car yet. As far as I am informed, this car is in retauration at this moment. I haven't seen the car. The owner prommessed us more pictures as soon as the car is completly restaured and not eralier then that.
I am trying to get in contact with the new owner for about a year, but could not reach him yet. Probably because a wrong emailadress ......

Counting now 37


In a very big book about Mercedes 600 appear a Landaulet belonged to a Malasian Sultan. It's blue (we can count 38 [:D]).

And we can count too Nasser's Landaulet and North Korea's Landaulet.

What are the pics that you have of the Shah's Landaulet? Can you post them please?

[img] uploaded/espejor/200971161013_166al.jpg [/img]

Regards!
paul-NL
7/1/2009 4:12 PM
The first picture during the wedding from belgian prins Filippe, was the factory-Landaulet, which in earlier times was often hired by the german governement.
That is the same car which was used during the visit of the pope in the past with the highstanding plexiglas roof.

Shown just before the G-Wagen.





paul-NL
7/1/2009 4:16 PM
No count stays on 37.
Malaysian Landaulet is the JOHOR car as already listed.

I don't know and not have any picture from a Nassar Landaulet ... Known was he had a Pullmann but I never heard from a Landaulet.
Nord Korea is imho already presentetd by Ron Buntings pictures.

espejor
7/1/2009 4:17 PM
Kim Il Sung's Landaulet:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zYsUqAYg6c
Ron B
7/1/2009 7:12 PM
I have seen Kim Jong Il on TV here in the landau moving in a parade in front of massed armament but it's not on You tube anywhere. It's quite interesting .



quote:
12-14-2004, 11:49 PM #8
Tom Hanson
MBCA Member

What the heck, try to stuff a MB 6.9 liter V8 in it. What a machine that would be..
__________________
Tom Hanson
Orange County Section
paul-NL
7/1/2009 7:34 PM
Hi Ron,
I saw that film on youtube also after Mike Trei put the link in this website.
But I could NOT catch a picture of that landaulet then. So your pictures were the first useable for me to store.
At this moment the stored pictures already overtook the 1,5 Gigabyte and there are only 18,5 % from the cars catched .....

year------prod----Vin----Pict
1963--------3-------3------3
1964------107------32-----20
1965------408-----112-----72
1966------323------61-----40
1967------159------52-----46
1968------223------66-----46
1969------336-----105-----79
1970------236------62-----46
1971------237------72-----59
1972------210------59-----44
1973-------82------12-----10
1974-------52------10------8
1975-------42-------5------4
1976-------47-------3------3
1977-------55-------5------4
1978-------40-------7------5
1979-------53-------7------6
1980-------44-------5------4
1981-------20-------4------3

It is a big job to find new ones, regsiter in a database and to archive-store those pictures of cars all correct. But it is with help from many sides and people interesting `stuff` .....
mbz63
7/3/2009 4:39 PM
Great job, Paul.
I think I have somewhere the chassis of black ex Idi Amin landau. Will try to find it.
I read somewhere that the french white Landau was originally in Africa.... there was a report about this car on an old Motor klassik but I do not speak german [:(]
paul-NL
7/3/2009 5:08 PM
Hi Giovanni,

I have that article in digital form, and there is stated it was by Kienle at that time from publishing. So I just checked it.

In that article is stated that that white Landaulet belonged to the president of Sierra Leone (since 1972).
That car was used on his visit in France in 1980 and stayed in France and was then sold afterwards to an american owner (Chairman koreanian Electro-concern). He parked it by Kienle for services.
I must have over-read that part [:I]

So, now you have to find for us that Vin of Idi Amin's Landaulet[:p]









mbz63
7/3/2009 5:49 PM
Nice pics Paul. I remember Idi Amin was a '67, chassis should be 10xx, tomorrow I will start research in my archive....
Branthomme from France might have further landau VINs.


[quote]Originally posted by paul-NL

Hi Giovanni,

In that article is stated that that white Landaulet belonged to the president of Sierra Leone (since 1972).

So, now you have to find for us that Vin of Idi Amin's Landaulet[:p]

will
7/10/2009 8:27 AM
Hello Paul,

here the pic of an unknown Landaulet, which I saw in 1997 by Mirbach.

Best regards


paul-NL
7/10/2009 2:29 PM
Hi Will,

Mark that that is a RHD !!!

donald
7/10/2009 2:47 PM
hi paul ,

i will try to find the vin on idi,s car , i now it was a early one , and righthand drive , the car was bought together with five other 600,s on a public auktion in paris in the early 80,s

i let you know when i find the vin

greetings

marc
paul-NL
7/10/2009 3:41 PM
Hi Marc,
thank you very much for your cooperation.
It would be nice when you can get it.

greetings from Holland

will
7/12/2009 5:15 PM
Hi Paul,

the seller of that time told me, it was delivered to Sierra Leone, but I dont know, whether this is correct. When you look at the "sign" of the back door, you can recognize two lions(perhaps Sierra "Leone"??). If Sierra Leone was in former times an English colony would this declare the "RHD". I think this car was built in 1967.

Regards
Will
paul-NL
7/12/2009 7:35 PM
Hi Will,

as I study all those pictures, then it seems, that the Landaulet in which our "belgian Mark" is married could be the same car.
He writes us. it was a RHD Landaulet, what is fitting.
It shwos a short softtop, what is fitting.
It is black wit dark red leather, what is fitting.
It has that same (as far as I can see on the pictures) that same Wapon on the thrunklid instead of the silver Star, what is fitting.

So I strongly believe it IS the same car (or an exact double).

greetings and thank you for the many pictures. Still twelf identified cars and we have reached 20 % of all build cars.
That is an increadeble result. As we started we had never thought and hoped to reach soooooo far.

will
7/13/2009 12:53 PM
Hi Paul,

I compared the wapon and I found in "wikipedia" the wapon of Sierra leone; the same is fixed on the Landaulet.- I remember, that Idi Amin was the president of Uganda and this wapon is very different. So I think, this car can´t be an Idi-Amin-car.
Greetings from Germany
paul-NL
7/13/2009 1:33 PM
Okee Will,
again e step ahaid ....

will
7/18/2009 5:01 PM
Hi Paul,
here a pic of the yellow Landaulet owned by the Royal family of Thailand. In the backround a Pullman.
Greetings
Will
rialto9
7/19/2009 2:12 AM
Hi Paul,
I am missing the red one which is part of the Linfox collection that is located in Melbourne.
The car was over here in Perth (Western Australia) on loan from Linfox for the annual "SHOW + SHINE" show some years ago.
It was reported to have belonged to Ringo Starr (Beatles). It was still equipped with some
sort of customized sound system of the 1970s.
Should be easy to obtain photos from Brian Tanti, the head of the Lindsay Fox restauration
department. Brian is a very approachable guy and could privide the VIN.
Also on the Nth. Korean government car: The ABC TV owns some footage of a military parade in Nth. Korea and the vehicle can be seen on the big plaza amongst marching
soldiers. ABC TV has shown this many times here in AUS.

Best regards

Walter
paul-NL
7/19/2009 9:09 AM
Hi Wilfried and Walter,

@ Will: Thanks for that picture. It was completly new to me. Can you find some more Info as the productionyear or other info or details ??? The white car is the background is no Pullman but a SWB. Somewhere else on this board is a picture from that SWBcar with two red trooperlights in the front published.

@ Walter.
That Ringo-car is a 6d-LWB but NO Landaulet, so it belongs not in this "Chapter". I have one good picture of that car but are in dubio about its Vin. Some auctiondescribtions mention the Vin as 1090 while other describtions mention 1091. The car had the Licensnumber PRE 732F. If you could get me additional pictures and Info about its correct vin I would be very Thankfull ....


mtrei
7/19/2009 1:11 PM
quote:
Originally posted by paul-NL

That Ringo-car is a 6d-LWB but NO Landaulet, so it belongs not in this "Chapter". If you could get me additional pictures and Info about its correct vin I would be very Thankfull


Here's a couple of pictures of Ringo riding in the back.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AInLCzbQBXM/SebRBMYrwDI/AAAAAAAAKVQ/0Lv1D_g-8FY/s1600-h/1.JPG

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_AInLCzbQBXM/SayunEBjedI/AAAAAAAAJ1A/v1RNZPqKTE8/s1600-h/4.JPG

Silver, Hmmm.
paul-NL
7/19/2009 1:44 PM
Hi Mike,
thanks for the pics.

but Silver ????

Ringo's 6d was maroon (dark bordeauxrot) not silver ....
Then it must be George Harrisson's car SWB, which was white or Silver ... (no real pict available (yet) ..... or Ringo must have had two 600's.

Greetings from Holland

mtrei
7/19/2009 1:58 PM
quote:
Originally posted by paul-NL

Hi Mike,
thanks for the pics.

but Silver ????
Ringo's 6d was maroon (dark bordeauxrot) not silver ....


At least the second picture is a different car, a SWB 600. The Beatles were famous for painting their cars different colors. John's Rolls went from black, to white, to psychedelic within about three years. John's 600 LWB went from white to black, and is now white again.

Just to confuse things further, look at this clip from about 1:20. You see Ringo's chauffeur driven silver 600 SWB, and George has a white SWB that he drove himself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpkOmkYM-z8
paul-NL
7/19/2009 2:05 PM
Hi Mike,

George's white SWB had Licenseplate RWE 420E. So thats is definitly white now .... Is marked in my database.

Then we can conclude the Ringo must have two 600's. The Maroon LWB and a silver SWB. Last car I have no "data" yet ....




which is in australia nowadays....

And here again the white Bangkok-SWB, which seems to be a 1975 car, in the background from the "yellow" Landaulet.






will
7/19/2009 6:10 PM
Hi Paul,

sorry, its a SWB, you are right and the same as showed at your picture. More informations about the yellow Landaulet you can find in "mercedesenthusiast", an english journal printed November 08. I will read the article to get more news. If you want, you can order this magazine via internet under mercedesenthusiast.co.uk.
Greetings
Wilfried
paul-NL
7/19/2009 7:39 PM
Hi Will,

would like to have that magazine, but may only pay by creditcard ...
rialto9
7/20/2009 9:27 AM
Hi all,

I must be confusing the Ringo car with a Landau owned by Bob Jane of Melbourne.

Cheers,

Walter
paul-NL
7/20/2009 11:00 AM
Hi Walter,

Lindsay Fox owns both, the silver landaulet and also the maroon 6d-LWB from Ringo Starr.
About the last car there is dubio over the correct Vin. The silver Landaulet is welknown and is the RHD-1942.

Greetings from Holland
will
7/20/2009 3:25 PM
Hi Paul,
there no other way than to pay by creditcard. Go to the website of mercedesenthusiast and open the side with the list of magazines since 2001 (it is called "back issues"). Search November 2008 and click "buy this issue". Now you have to pay by creditcard.
Greetings Wilfried.

P.S.: This a very interest english magazine, often with articles about 600`s.
paul-NL
7/20/2009 3:43 PM
Hi Will,

that is just the point, I do NOT have any creditcard .....
heinz
7/22/2009 9:05 AM
Hi Paul and other MB 600 enthusiasts.
The August issue of Classic and Sports Car Magazine (English) available from most good book stores and news agents has a feature article on the MB 600 Laundalet
From Heinz Also see www.mb600limo.com and www.gold.mb600limo.com

Love the cars!
Heinz


heinzmb600
paul-NL
7/23/2009 11:24 AM
Thanks Heinz for the tip.

My doughter did bring me this edition this afternoon after shopping in town.

greetings
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