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Another idea for the store: the plastic pouch for the manuals. The seams have separated in mine so everything is in zip lock bag. Since this was used across many models there might be a broader market.
Chris I do have interest in redoing the linkage parts.
jim

Re-bushing the arms is a basic machine shop function.
Easy but time consuming. one at a time.
we can find a hobbyist machinist who could do this on the cnczone.com website.

Brian O.

I've been looking into that as well.

The balls and sockets are readily available, but the arms with the balls welded in place is a problem. Rather than have the assemblies created from all new parts, I am looking at having precision jigs made to hold the arms (with the old ball already drilled out and removed) and ball stud in the correct position relative to each other for welding and then having them replated.

Fortunately the 6.3 does not use any arms that rotate on a shaft (as opposed to with the shaft) with bushings in the arm hole. The 300SEs use a few of these and the bushings are always severely worn (nobody ever greases them because they are so hard to get to). I am also looking into getting some jigs for these to be able to drill out the bushing and replacing it and also replace the ball.

If there is enough interest in these, I'll move this up on the priority list.

Chris Johnson
If you aren't constantly impressed with your car, then it needs fixing.
100.012-12-000790
100.012-12-000867
109.018-12-000010
109.018-12-000019
109.018-12-003834
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Hi Chris the arms with balls welded in place.

jim

Jim, just what is it you are looking for? The balls and sockets, or the arms with the ball welded in place?

Chris Johnson
If you aren't constantly impressed with your car, then it needs fixing.
100.012-12-000790
100.012-12-000867
109.018-12-000010
109.018-12-000019
109.018-12-003834
www.300SE.org

The ball (male end) can be produced on a lathe and swagged into the existing levers. Should not be a problem to build. just the quantity needed could dictated production. 100 pieces?

Brian O.

Brian I was thinking of something new and not the rods. Jim

jim

Thinking and doing the store..
I have now over 400 pictures of my parts collecting obsession.
On a CD 406 Meg.
Here is a typical related to the linkage balls.
I kinda think I'm covered on used linkages



I haven't broken down to exact individual parts.

Brian O.

I think all of us probably have issues with our linkages. I have replaced the rod ends but not balls they attach to and they are NLA. These parts would be a great asset. I have no idea how to go about getting these made in bulk but I would help any way I could and would certainly be a buyer

jim

The truth is that anybody with the filing fee and an attorney can sue anyone for anything. Winning a case is quite something else. Perhaps we need to investigate liability insurance. What do used parts resellers do for liability insurance? I think there is a concern that exceeds the actual risk. We are a nonprofit organization with very limited assets, after all.

Jack English
300SEL 6.3 #4768

Frank/Brian - I appreciate the points you are making. I believe Chris and I were excited about certain selling parts but this legal concern by the board kind of squashed that thought. While we work to get something that resembles a store off the ground I'm sure we'll keep debating this issue.

Francis E. Abate

This is a good subject,
What IF(s)

I sell someone a clock, install it, then they crash and
kill someone while looking at it. Am I negligent?

I look under the hood, see a leaking oil hose,
verbally admonish them to replace it,
the hose leaks, pressure drops,
(unnoticed because they are watching their clock (runs perfectly)),
and scatters the 6.3 crankshaft,
they return and threaten a lawsuit,
I laugh out loud at their mechanical ineptness, (piss them off)
Can they sue for my 5 homes and get them ?,
because I failed to put all the property into a LLC?

Serious now....
What would be the issue with a used part?
How can the junkyards sell used tires?
What legal protection do junkyards have?
Why does the law have anything to do with this?
I do understand liability of aircraft parts at 40,000 ft 600mph
But car parts?

Brian O.

I don't want to beat any horse, dead or otherwise but having been a Superior Court judge for the last 25 years and a lawyer for 10 years before that let me offer the following re: selling parts. If something happened causing some damage to anything or anyone, and, that damage was caused in whole or in part by the item we sold, we could be legimately sued. Whether we ultimately could be liable for damages would depend on the individual facts of the case. Our correct response would be to 'answer' and join in the actual maker of the part, the distributor, and anyone else with potential liability. See my point. Its not the actual legal determination of responsibility, its the goshdarned costs of hiring lawyers to defend us etc. These things can cost tens of thousands of dollars in a heartbeat.
That said. If we can do good work and make enough profit to pay for it, liability insurance might not be too expensive if all we sell are OEM parts or parts to manufacturers specs. Thanks.

There is a difference between the club providing the ranking and having the club website maintain the ranking information provided by others (individuals). That's one of the reasons why ebay distances itself from the ratings by saying that they only post them. -CTH

Lists of sources of parts, service, etc., are good to have. I am afraid that a rating system could be a dangerous thing for the club to provide.

Stu

I also have a fairly long list of resource websites that I would be happy to share. One issue would be repitition and overlap. Would it be reasonable to rate sources as Amazon and ebay do?

Well, Ok if you insist. How can help make that happen?


Chris
1971 Mercedes 600
1992 Mercedes 400E
1993 Mercedes 400E
1985 Porsche 911
1997 Toyota Landcruiser
2004 Porsche 911 GT3

John,

I think that is a great idea.

Stu

Can we post resource lists? I'd love to share my sources and secure them into the community....

John Hubertz
1977 450SEL (Max Headroom)

I have a lot of stuff to place on classifieds, however the site will not allow me access to the accounts previously set up.

Brian O.